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ArchiMotion
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Well, Bush is certainly not taking this threat seriously. But of course we should...... but this quagmire was long ago predicted, and the instability and imbalance it has created. Even the Arabs are trying to control their rebel factions.
In any event, Iran may not be able to support Turkey if it get's itself attacked by Israel, as it would have a bigger problem to resolve --->>
http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/06/06/israel.iran/index.html
If Iran continues its program to develop nuclear weapons, we will attack it," Deputy Prime Minister Shaul Mofaz told Yediot Ahronot, Israel's largest mass-circulation daily. "The window of opportunity has closed. The sanctions are not effective. There will be no alternative but to attack Iran in order to stop the Iranian nuclear program."
Mofaz's threat is one of the most explicit made against the Islamic Republic of Iran by a member of Prime Minister Ehud Olmert's Cabinet.
The threat is not without precedent. In 1981, Israeli warplanes destroyed an Iraqi nuclear reactor being built by Saddam Hussein's regime. Israel also is reported to have targeted a Syrian reactor in September.
And the US is certainly not making it easy in Iran, by threatening more sanctions -->>
http://edition.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/06/10/bush.trip.ap/index.html
And, I do agree that the US should get out of Iraq and I have a plan as well. Before the war of Iraq, I was AGAINST the US going to war with Iraq, and I had a plan to do so, to avoid war and it WOULD have worked. I even sent it to Koffee and a the weekend before the US declared war, the UN was discussing a plan similar to mine, indicating they had heard my ideas. And now I have a few new ideas on how to get us out -->>
1. Give control over to a US puppet government.
2. Protect the borders with US troops and technology, anti-missile technology and "tech schtuff"
3. Allow a few military personnel to stay around to guarantee the security.
With this plan, we remove 70 to 80 percent of the forces there and maintain only a strategic presence, allowing the puppet government to run the country, with full US support, and if needed, military action to avoid attempts to overthrow the government.
4. We keep the troops out of there, in other regions, but with easy reach, if needed, as step 1. Step two, as the local government grows stronger on it's own, we slowly move those troops further away... until the majority are no longer needed.
5. The borders are kept secure and the local government continues to enjoy US strategic support.
With secure borders, we also make efforts to prevent anyone from using Iraq as a launching ground for attacks on other nations.
There will be of course some internal infighting, but this is a natural consequence of the presence of multi-ethnic groups there....
Eventually local balance is restored.
We maintain intelligence in there to prevent another dictatorship.
They only get our support if they are playing by the rules.
Anybody got a better plan ? |
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Richard Haut
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According to Al-Maliki if agreement is not reached between America and the Iraqi Government (following the insulting 'terms' offered by America), then the Americans may be "asked to leave".
Do not take this mild-sounding statement too lightly.
America has been "asked to leave" other places in the world, leases on bases being withdrawn or not renewed - and the Americans leave.
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ArchiMotion
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| Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 7:58 pm Post subject: |
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Really, both sides want an agreement.
http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/06/13/iraq.security/index.html#cnnSTCText
This is the key phrase here:
" But, he noted, Iraq needs U.S. resources, expertise and political clout. "
"We hope at the end of the day, we serve the U.S. interest because there will be more powerful government" that will be able to "defend itself against international terrorism, against proxies and against all sorts of criminal activities," he said."
Bush is confident he will reach a security pact with Iraq, so it may not boil down to such an extreme as they asking US to leave, as they need the US resources, as mentioned.
http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/06/14/bush.iraq/index.html#cnnSTCText
And, we still have this problem to face -->>
"Meanwhile, firebrand Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr said in a statement Friday that he is establishing a new fighting force to battle the U.S.-led troops in Iraq.
Sources familiar with the issue have told CNN they believe this is an embrace by al-Sadr of what the Americans call "Special Groups" -- the Iranian-backed rogue Shiite militants who have been fighting American and Iraqi troops.
The mainstream Mehdi Army has been in a cease-fire mode since last summer, an act that dramatically reduced violence in Iraq."
So even if we are able to stay there, we will need to face this threat by muqtada al-Sadr. |
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Richard Haut
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| Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 1:36 am Post subject: |
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Bush has been in Europe.
fascinating.
very few protests. Why ?
because he is being almost universally ignored. Even those who have no choice but to meet him give correcting speeches to show that they disagree with his so-called policies (like Merkel in Germany - a puppet who now actively distances herself from the US).
the press coverage is brief, non-committal. He is shown at a microphone uttering his usual combination of platitudes and threats. He is interviewed and allowed to spout his drivel. Nobody cares.
the President of the United States of America tours Europe, and nobody cares ?
America has achieved the impossible: it has become irrelevant.
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