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paulprd



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 7:44 am    Post subject: PowerCADD 3D Reply with quoteFind all posts by paulprd

Hi All,

The last discussion about 3d and PCadd got high jacked.

So just to keep the momentum going a little pic from the latest version. Universal now and very fast.

Cheers

Paul



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Rob C



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by Rob C

Any ability to export a 3D file?
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paulprd



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 12:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by paulprd

Hi,

Yes there will be support for export. What would you want to do with the exported file. ie What app would you be going into?

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jasonlocher



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 9:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by jasonlocher

FormZ and Lightwave
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How Goes It



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 10:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by How Goes It

I'm with Jason on an export to form•Z
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How Goes It



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 10:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by How Goes It

P.S. -- I assume doing a smooth model of hillside land will be easier in form•Z, at least during the early stages of the PowerCADD 3D program or plug.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by Rob C

or SketchUp or some rendering program.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 6:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by jasonlocher

How Goes It wrote:
P.S. -- I assume doing a smooth model of hillside land will be easier in form•Z, at least during the early stages of the PowerCADD 3D program or plug.


I just don't see how formZ's topography tools can be beat. The only thing they are lacking is a cut/fill calculator.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 7:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by paulprd

Thanks for your input all. A generic export to cover as many bases as possible looks the order.

Just for info the model took around 20 mins to make. That was from taking the 2D drawings into PCadd and measuring to be able to produce the a model shown.

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paulprd



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 7:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by paulprd

How Goes It wrote:
P.S. -- I assume doing a smooth model of hillside land will be easier in form•Z, at least during the early stages of the PowerCADD 3D program or plug.


Probably right. Its possible to do, we can already bring in a DXF terrain. But making from scratch may be beyond reach for v1. V2 for sure.

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M-Rick



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 10:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by M-Rick

I think it must be compatible with major 3D formats like DXF/DWG, SKP (SketchUp), OBJ, 3DS, LWO (LightWave).
And maybe ArchiCAD libraries since you made your software parametric ?
And why not FormZ since it seems having lotsa users there, give a look to Rhino 3D too, new one coming to the mac community.
http://download.mcneel.com/wenatchee/Default.aspx

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 5:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by phansford

Paul - excuse me if my question is redundant - but I couldn't find the earlier hijacked thread.

Is the intent of PC 3d to begin to build BIM potential into PC? Are you thinking of it being a plug-in/add-on or building a separate PC that has BIM capabilities?

Of course as long as I don't pursue work with the GSA - I don't need BIM - but then I also want to begin preparing for the future - if BIM actually takes off and more clients demand it.
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paulprd



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 10:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by paulprd

phansford wrote:
Paul - excuse me if my question is redundant - but I couldn't find the earlier hijacked thread.

Is the intent of PC 3d to begin to build BIM potential into PC? Are you thinking of it being a plug-in/add-on or building a separate PC that has BIM capabilities?

Of course as long as I don't pursue work with the GSA - I don't need BIM - but then I also want to begin preparing for the future - if BIM actually takes off and more clients demand it.


Hi, firstly just a comment on export. Probably leaning towards DWG. This is the most adopted format. Odd when you consider that AutoD do not actually provide the format in the public domain and it has to be reverse engineered by every other company on the planet who wants to use it. Hence why everyone is always behind after a new release of ACAD.

BIM.. Well I guess eventually a few years down the line we may start to approach a BIM like integration, We are not ES so cant predict what will happen in the future with PC. Even VW is only half BIM and thats been around for almost as long as PCadd. Initially we are a visualiser for PCadd. Not quite a plug in, we sit along side PCadd and you paste from PCADD into 3D environment and start making walls etc. The link here, no scale problems, similar interface, mapped 2delevations to 3D space, Longer term we have thoughts in mind for smart tools, so you draw with the ease and fluidity that PCadd allows but information is sitting there in the background to pass to 3D and automate the process while still having the flexibility of pure 2D. But we gotta start somewhere Wink There is an awful lot of setting up in the BIM world, and its fairly restrictive unless you work hard at it. But obvious benefits when you get there.

Another PIC for you. We have just finished Bill Boarding. A great feature.

Thanks for your interest!

Cheers

Paul



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phansford



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 6:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by phansford

Paul,

Thanks for the response. FWIW - I was using Designworkshop, which for all intents and purposes is a dead platform. So now, I am moving/using Sketchup. Cost is a big factor as is ease of use. Seems like a lot of architects are using Sketchup and it might become the program of choice.

I think the plug-in approach is good way to pursue your idea. It allows the end user flexibility. (I'm a one person shop who occassionally will hire an assistant.)

BIM...... I know its out there and big clients are going that route. I want to do more research into it. I am not fond of taking liability that seems to be attached to BIM. Again - it might be a plug-in for users who are pursuing GSA work and will need to prove BIM.

Thanks again for the response. Keep up the good work.
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Rick C



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 7:37 am    Post subject: No BIM, please! Reply with quoteFind all posts by Rick C

I'm on several POA Architectural Review Boards and I've watched local architects struggle with their BIM software. It seems like you can't get a drawing that looks complete until ALL data is entered. So, right up until their work is finished their drawings are rough and unfinished to the point of being inadequate to show the design intent.

The way we work, we need to get approvals at conceptual, preliminary and design development stages. I assume many if not most other architects do too. There are too many variables in our process for BIM to make sense for us.


Love the idea of a 3D plug in for PC, though!
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