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jjuugg
Joined: 26 May 2008
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 Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 8:24 am Post subject: i'm a highschool student who considers becoming an architect |
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I'm a Junior right now, so i've been searching for colleges
that will pursue my goal, and I wasn't sure, which architect I want to be.
So,, I have few question, What types of architect are there?
so far, I saw landscape architect, just architect, is there any differences between them??
Also, what is BA, and MA actuall means?
I know that their abbreviation is Bachelor and master, but
what's their difference?
Also, if i chose my major as architecture, do i have to chose
either between BA & MA? or does it depend on which college I go to.
and lastly!!
I live in VA and I couldn't find architecture school around here
except for UVA...
I mean it would be fabulous to get accepted there,
but I don't know which schools to apply in VA that would be my
secured(?) college that I could be accepted for sure.
Also, i really want to go to college out of state to explore the world><,
but my family can't afford them,,, but I'm still going to apply out of state
colleges,and.....
which schools are great for architecture?
Thank you for reading bunch of questions>< |
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Antisthenes
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| Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 10:14 am Post subject: |
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why do you need to go to school for architecture?
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Ohiobuild
Joined: 02 May 2008
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| Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 1:26 pm Post subject: DO you need to go to school for architecture? |
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| Antisthenes--do you think that architecture school isn't necessary to become a practicing architect? Im looking into returning for a 3 year masters program and cant quite find out if a university education is mandatory to receive your license, or just the experience and time to pass the exam. Can you shed any light on this? Id of course, rather do without the debt--still paying of undergrad! |
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Antisthenes
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| Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 2:29 pm Post subject: |
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I am in a unique situation, i practice in AZ here you can get professional licenses in a number of fields thru experience only w/o education. It makes great sense FLW & Bruder did it, if more states had the balls i suppose they would allow this too? of coarse after 10 years experience you can apply for broad experience with NCARB to get reciprocity in other states.
I feel coming from a design/construction background that is not an accredited school program, and having the experience under the supervision of other architects preparing construction documents and all the other processes of permitting well prepares any individual to sit for the Architectural Registration Exams.
What is important about this is that the option DOES exist in the state of opportunity.
It really does makes me scratch my head why so many people pay so much to go thru programs that have little to do with what they will be doing once they graduate other than gaining a paper of status.
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Madimel
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| Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 7:12 pm Post subject: |
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| It really depends on each individual. School may be beneficial to some and others will probably drive them from the profession. Like anything else, you will need to take a lot of initiative on yourself to get to where you think you want in any profession. School exposes you to a wider range of the profession without being in it. One of the drawback of learning by doing is the financial side of your employment. You will have to perform in order to justify your position, so you could fall into the trap of doing the same thing over and over again. Not to say that will happen, some people are lucky to have supervisors who throw them a design project or take them out to the job site once in a while. I've seen successful candidates without going through the university system and vice versa. The bottom line is that with or without a degree, you will ultimately determine how to use it. |
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jjuugg
Joined: 26 May 2008
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| Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 8:14 am Post subject: thank you everybody for the replies>< |
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I never thought of not going to college..
because of my parents (whom are asians..)
Also, I don't think I'll know where to start if I don't go to college
and learn.^^
Anyways thank you again!! |
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kushol
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| Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 9:17 am Post subject: |
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hi jjuugg, it is preferable if u use your real name & give your actual location. bcoz this is a global site & VA isn't known to everybody. I appretiate your interest in architecture. Thou u know a little about it. Lemme answer your search.
BA & MA is the degree in architecture. U cant do MA without passing BA. BA is the undergraduate course & MA is post graduate.
there are vast field in architecture. Landscape is one of them. Interior architecture is like another. But u can swich on to any of this subfield if u educate yourself in architecture. For the field of your career u can search in this website.
http://www.archcareers.org/
But if you want to be an Architect u must have passion about Art. you need a good sketch quality, free hand drawing ability etc
its not like BBA education u need to have an artistic mentality. Though Its very tough ro study but you will enjoy every part of it. Wish u all the best with your career. |
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teamjdc
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I am getting increasingly distressed by the misinformation being thrown around this forum regarding education and architecture.
(Note: The following comments apply to the U.S. and, as far as I know Canada.)
Virtually all states now require an accredited degree for licensure. To find accredited programs, visit naab.org.
The minimum accredited degree is a Bachelor of Architecture (BArch). Not a BA, not a BS.
You may choose to get a Master of Architecture (MArch) in addition to the BArch but it is not required.
You may, in lieu of an accredited BArch, get a MArch after getting an unaccredited BA or BS in any major or after an unaccredited BArch.
There are a very few schools that have MArch's which do not require an undergrad degree but expect the program to take 6 or 7 years to complete.
Caution: All BArch's and MArch's are not accredited! Be sure to carefully check naab.org before commiting to a school. Also confirm with the school.
Anyone considering architecture would be a fool to not understand what it takes to become licensed prior to selecting a school. Go to http://www.ncarb.org/stateboards/index.html to check the states where you think you might settle. When you check a state, you should also continue on to the states website (links are provided) to confirm the requirements.
You should should also review the other requirements at ncarb.org such as the intern program (IDP) and the licensing exam (ARE). Also note that a few states have supplemental exams -- California being the most rigorous.
I implore you to pay no mind to anyone who tries to tell you to go to a tech school or that you can work, get experience and get licensed. While this is possible in two or three states, it is a long, hard road. Anyone who pushes this approach is either delusional or trying to screw you up.
Finally, anyone looking for a highly specialized and technical career like architecture should get the information required on their own. A tiny fraction of high school counselors know anything at all about what you need to do and even those well-meaning people don't really know what you absolutely must know.
You found this forum. There's no excuse for not getting the real information you need to succeed. It's all online.
[I'm going to post this in a new thread] |
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Antisthenes
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| Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 11:03 am Post subject: |
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oh and the skill of piracy so you can learn the expensive tools that the companies will want you to know, that most schools will not have.
i think if you put your foot in the door as a BIM manager you would be well on your way to getting the 6 years experience you need to sit for your architectural registration examinations.
the old guys don't even know this stuff yet and it is the way the industry appears to be being moved by the software giants.
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michilie
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Ohiobuild
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| Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 9:33 am Post subject: more info on license |
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I did check out the licensing rules for Ohio (for any Ohio students or transfers who may be interested) and this is a state that DOES require an accredited degree to sit for the ARE. Not too big of a surprise there.
HOWEVER, a really nice little bit of information I discovered about Ohio is that you can sit for the ARE the very week you graduate.  You are not required to accomplish any amount of time on the IDP before you take the ARE. This was passed in Ohio in 2007. That takes a nice chunk of time off the process. It says you must be "concurrently" working on IDP, but there is no amount of time required, at all, prior to taking it. |
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Antisthenes
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that is really bad that Ohio does that because most people coming out of school have no experience in what they will actually be doing.
but who am i to voice my disagreement when i would rather celibate the alternative paths available to me that i only wish everybody else had.
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wq418
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me too!
i am come from china
and i love architecture!
frighting! |
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wolfarchitech
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| Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 10:40 pm Post subject: |
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Im going to try to answer most of the questions...
BA- Bachelor of Architecture, 5 year undergrad program usually professional degree. In some states this is all you need
MA- Masters of Architecture, this can be a 4 undergrad +2 grad, 5 undergrad +1 grad, or 4 undergrad not in architecture +3 grad.
All colleges differ in what programs they offer some offer both some one and not the other and so on.
visit www.naab.org/ for information on what schools are accredited for what degrees.
As for state colleges, university of Cinncinati is the highest ranked state college. Arizona State and University of Pennsylvania aren't too bad either.
hope that helps |
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teamjdc
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| wolfarchitech wrote: | | As for state colleges, university of Cinncinati is the highest ranked state college. |
Actually, that distinction belongs to Cal Poly San Luis Obispo. |
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