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MIZtigersZOU



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 4:59 pm    Post subject: Just starting Architectural Studies program Reply with quoteFind all posts by MIZtigersZOU

I am going to be a freshman at the University of Missouri and I am entering the architectural studies program. Each year, there are about 80 applicants, but only 40 are admitted into the studio sequence. At the end of the spring semester, applicants submit a portfolio for review, and based on these portfolios, the students are admitted. I am worried about making it into the studio sequence and wasting a semester. I have never taken a formal art class. Architecture has always fascinated me, though, and I think it is something I can really enjoy. Any words of comfort or advice is welcome!
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starkca3



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by starkca3

*gasp!

I am in the same boat as you, except i am now a sophomore and at University of washington we have about 130 applicants for about 33 accepted.

Its stressful!.

I asked some of the same questions, but accidentally posted it on the forum NOT FOR STUDENT ISSUES.

Its called, applying for UW architecture program i think.

anyways, yea....
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MA2PA



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by MA2PA

I would suggest that if you want to take up Architecture as your true and main profession somewhere in the future you apply for a bachelor in Architecture, which is a 5 year degree as opposed to the 4 year Arch studies degree. With the studies degree you cannot get licensed so you might want to think about the program your in, and do a little more thinking about it. Good luck with whatever you choose, and don't be nervous, just work your behind off and you'll be fine...
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teamjdc



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by teamjdc

I cannot stress enough what MA2PA said.

Missouri does not have an accredited program. Unless you're planning on going on to grad school and getting a master of architecture, wasting a semester will be the least of your worries if you want to be an architect.

Please go to this site to find accredited programs:
http://naab.org/schools/search.aspx?searchType=A

I would seriously consider transfering asap to a school with an accredited bachelor of architecture. The only one in MO is Drury.
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MIZtigersZOU



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 10:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by MIZtigersZOU

I do want to go ahead and work on the M.arch...should I still consider transfering? I love the University of Missouri...it will be hard for me to leave it...
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teamjdc



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 11:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by teamjdc

Then stick with your plan. I just wanted to make sure you understand that without an accredited degree you cannot get licensed in all but a few states.
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MA2PA



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 12:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by MA2PA

Idk I still think you should put some thought into an accredited program. I understand you want to go for the M. Arch but you never know how plans can change, plus if you get the B. Arch you can start practicing at least to some level within a small firm all while you attain the Masters... Not trying to force you on anything just thinking that in the long run it could possible help you out and make things a little easier, but if you think that what your doing is the best plan for you, by all means, continue...
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MIZtigersZOU



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 12:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by MIZtigersZOU

So...just want to make sure I am getting this right. A BS.HES with an emphasis in Architectural Studies can get me to a professional architectural program where I can get the M.Arch and become licensed? I knew the accredidation was important, but from my understanding with talking with the admissions people from the College of Human Environmental Sciences at UofM, the accredidation did not need to come until grad school.
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MA2PA



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 12:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by MA2PA

If thats what admissions tells you then go with what admissions tells you... They know what they're talking about more than anyone, just poke around a little bit more on your own you know... get some piece of mind for yourself...
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wolfarchitech



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 10:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by wolfarchitech

I went through a program that was not accredited. I say you have three options.

1. You go through this program, then you go get ur masters. You are lookin at 7 to 7 1/2 years of school. Not what I suggest.

2. You pick a diifferent major. an art or science major. If I had to do it over again I might be an art major because there is a lot about art and design and history that can potentially direct your designs. This way you will not only get an education about architecture in grad school, but you'll have a solid arts education. You'll have 7 years but it will be a very good mix of studies. if you go into grad school with a uncredited bs in arch then your first year will be like taking your fourth year over again.

3. Go to an accredited school. These programs work hard for accreditation. if you get that degree in 5 years then you may be able to go to grad school for just one year, saving you a year of grad school bills.
If your serious about architecture this is really the best bet.

Employers and grad schools value accredited degrees more so then non. hindsight is 20/20. If I had to do it all over again I would do the 5 year degree. Im just trying to save you some of the hassle that I've gone through with my degree. I liked my school to. But you are just as likely to enjoy another school. Don't let that fact hold you behind.
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starkca3



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 2:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by starkca3

Hey guys?

Is University of Washington's program accredited?
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teamjdc



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 2:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by teamjdc

MIZtigersZOU wrote:
So...just want to make sure I am getting this right. A BS.HES with an emphasis in Architectural Studies can get me to a professional architectural program where I can get the M.Arch and become licensed? I knew the accredidation was important, but from my understanding with talking with the admissions people from the College of Human Environmental Sciences at UofM, the accredidation did not need to come until grad school.


Either you misunderstood or they have misled you becase they do not offer an accredited Bachelor degree.

Thereare many acredited Bachelor of Architecture (5-yr) degrees. There are also some 5-yr accredited Master of Architecture degrees.

I also want to comment on something MA2PA said. I think they're implying, with the "small firm" comment, that a BArch is not adequate for licensure and working virtually anywhere. This is not true. The primary difference between which degree architect have is the school they went to.

Not all schools have both degrees. Many that used to got caught up in NAAB's attempt to eliminate the BArch degree. That attempt went down in flames but some schools have less backbone then others and when NAAB said, "jump", they asked, "how high?"

You must be very careful about who you listen to. Get your own information and challenge the advisors with what you know. There's no reason for ignorance. All you need to know is readily available online. From NAAB to the state licensing boards to NCARB. It's all out there -- just a few keystrokes away.

Good luck. Even though you find yourself in this situation, it's early and you can avoid becoming yet another unsuspecting victim of misinformation and schools who sell some a bill of goods.
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teamjdc



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by teamjdc

starkca3 wrote:
Hey guys?

Is University of Washington's program accredited?


The two MArch's are.

You can find all accredited programs here:
http://naab.org/schools/search.aspx?searchType=A

When you look at the results, be sure to note the dates of accreditation. Many have expired and some are candidates for accreditation but not guranteed.
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starkca3



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by starkca3

ok so i can complete my BA then apply to the grad school to get the MA?
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MIZtigersZOU



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by MIZtigersZOU

I have done some research on my own, and it looks like I should be fine going through the program I am in, but it will take an extra year or so...which I think I can handle at this point.
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